While we are all so very attached to our devices, many do not truly appreciate the dark underbelly of the global electronics industry. In this podcast I interview Prof Jenny Chan, who exposed the hazardous working conditions that contributed to the alarming rates of suicide among workers. Her book “Dying for an iPhone” delves into the exploitative practices prevalent in factories producing popular consumer electronics, shedding light on the long hours, low wages, and relentless pressure faced by employees. In our conversation, she uncovers the intricate web connecting these adverse working conditions, mental health struggles, and the tragic outcomes of suicide. Through poignant stories and extensive research, Prof Chan reveals the urgent need for change, urging consumers, corporations, and governments to address the human cost behind the devices we use and demand ethical practices in the industry.